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Reluctant writers
Posted by: Jill Hammonds on the 04/10/2012
Hi Jo,Great to find someone else who thinks this way about student writing. So often teachers talk about these reluctant writers in a way that puts the cause on the writers, rather than reflecting that perhaps it is the teaching environment that is the causal factor. As you say, writing is about communicating and therefore in order for the process to complete there has to be audience and response, and in too many instances student writing does not occur in a space where response can occur and hence it becomes a meaningless task that just fills in time at school.Likewise the dynamic of handwriting is not an even playing field, and some will feel they have failed even before they commit their scrawl to paper. I had one child who was like that, and the first opportunity he had to show me what he could do in the way of writing was when he emailed me from London - he had exciting things to write about and a tool that he felt comfortable using, and hence the expression flowed and was enjoyable.The title of your ED Talk indicates one great solution to both these factors - using ICT enables a level playing field re presentation, and an easy way to create genuine audince and opportunity for response. As teachers we need to get these reluctant writers freed from their supposed "handicaps" and enabled to express themselves in meaningful ways which may include other media than just text. I have started a VLN (virtual learning network) community around just these ways of working - the Blended e-Learning Literacy Community at http://www.vln.school.nz/groups/profile/704046/blended-e-learning-literacy which viewers may find useful if they want to take your ideas further.I'm moving to Paraparaumu Beach shortly so will look forward to making F2F contact once I'm there, but so pleased to see these ideas getting out there.Cheers, Jill
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The CORE Education eFellowship Awards recognise innovative e-learning practice by New Zealand teachers.

View more stories from CORE Education eFellows in the eFellows EDtalks channel 

Reluctant writers
Posted by: Jill Hammonds on the 04/10/2012
Hi Jo,Great to find someone else who thinks this way about student writing. So often teachers talk about these reluctant writers in a way that puts the cause on the writers, rather than reflecting that perhaps it is the teaching environment that is the causal factor. As you say, writing is about communicating and therefore in order for the process to complete there has to be audience and response, and in too many instances student writing does not occur in a space where response can occur and hence it becomes a meaningless task that just fills in time at school.Likewise the dynamic of handwriting is not an even playing field, and some will feel they have failed even before they commit their scrawl to paper. I had one child who was like that, and the first opportunity he had to show me what he could do in the way of writing was when he emailed me from London - he had exciting things to write about and a tool that he felt comfortable using, and hence the expression flowed and was enjoyable.The title of your ED Talk indicates one great solution to both these factors - using ICT enables a level playing field re presentation, and an easy way to create genuine audince and opportunity for response. As teachers we need to get these reluctant writers freed from their supposed "handicaps" and enabled to express themselves in meaningful ways which may include other media than just text. I have started a VLN (virtual learning network) community around just these ways of working - the Blended e-Learning Literacy Community at http://www.vln.school.nz/groups/profile/704046/blended-e-learning-literacy which viewers may find useful if they want to take your ideas further.I'm moving to Paraparaumu Beach shortly so will look forward to making F2F contact once I'm there, but so pleased to see these ideas getting out there.Cheers, Jill
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Speaker: Jo Fothergill

Jo Fothergill, a 2011 CORE Education eFellow, researched how ICT could help her students find their voice and explored what 'writing' actually is. She challenges us to consider 'If you always do what you've always done,you'll always get what you've always got."

Views 10,221
Date added: 13 Aug 2012
Duration: 3:52

Hi my name's Jo Fothergill, I'm a teacher of year five students at Raumati Beach School on the Kapiti Coast. 

I decided to apply for an eFellowship this year because I had an interest in literacy and reluctant writers and how ICTs might help them find their voice. I see it as being something that is a start. It is a project that I have started that I will continue working on. I don't believe that I've found a definitive answer, it is something I am still looking at.

I hate writing by hand. It is just something that totally puts me off. And if I have a choice I won't write by hand and I've discovered for me that the joy of writing comes in being able to reflect about my writing. And it is a process that is a lot deeper and has a lot more meaning because I can do it in a form, in a medium that doesn't restrict me. And I have discovered that for a lot of my students the same thing applies.

They may be competent writers but the real joy and the real expression of creativity comes when they have a freedom, when they can write from home, when they can write when they're on holiday and they've got an idea, the next idea for their story. They go online, they go into their Google Docs and away they go.

One of the things that I looked at is what is writing anyway? Is writing always pen and paper? Is writing always words? Perhaps writing is painting a picture or creating a dance. So writing is not always what we've traditionally thought of writing as being. And I think the challenge for teachers is to see that not all children see the same way, and not all children can write the same way.

James Nottingham talks about intraverted and extraverted thinkers, people who talk to think and people who think to talk. And I think this really applies when it comes down to writing, whether it is traditional writing. Some children can sit down and they can write. Other children have to go away, have a bit of a play, and come back and do their writing. And some of the work that one of our new entrant teachers has been doing has proved that by giving kids that opportunity to do another activity before they write, they come to writing prepared. They've got their ideas, they're ready to go.

The other thing that really strikes me is the quote, "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got". And I think about writing and I look at how some teachers are doing writing and it is no different to how my kids did it when they went through school, and they're in their 20s now. And I think that that's a shame because I know that for one of my children, handwriting is fine, she is really captivated with it. For my other child - he hates it. If he has to do it by hand it's a right pain, much prefer to do it using a computer. And I think that if we deny our kids the opportunities to express themselves, to find their voice, and to express it in the way that is best suited to them, then we are actually doing them a huge injustice.  

Hi my name's Jo Fothergill, I'm a teacher of year five students at Raumati Beach School on the Kapiti Coast. 

I decided to apply for an eFellowship this year because I had an interest in literacy and reluctant writers and how ICTs might help them find their voice. I see it as being something that is a start. It is a project that I have started that I will continue working on. I don't believe that I've found a definitive answer, it is something I am still looking at.

I hate writing by hand. It is just something that totally puts me off. And if I have a choice I won't write by hand and I've discovered for me that the joy of writing comes in being able to reflect about my writing. And it is a process that is a lot deeper and has a lot more meaning because I can do it in a form, in a medium that doesn't restrict me. And I have discovered that for a lot of my students the same thing applies.

They may be competent writers but the real joy and the real expression of creativity comes when they have a freedom, when they can write from home, when they can write when they're on holiday and they've got an idea, the next idea for their story. They go online, they go into their Google Docs and away they go.

One of the things that I looked at is what is writing anyway? Is writing always pen and paper? Is writing always words? Perhaps writing is painting a picture or creating a dance. So writing is not always what we've traditionally thought of writing as being. And I think the challenge for teachers is to see that not all children see the same way, and not all children can write the same way.

James Nottingham talks about intraverted and extraverted thinkers, people who talk to think and people who think to talk. And I think this really applies when it comes down to writing, whether it is traditional writing. Some children can sit down and they can write. Other children have to go away, have a bit of a play, and come back and do their writing. And some of the work that one of our new entrant teachers has been doing has proved that by giving kids that opportunity to do another activity before they write, they come to writing prepared. They've got their ideas, they're ready to go.

The other thing that really strikes me is the quote, "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got". And I think about writing and I look at how some teachers are doing writing and it is no different to how my kids did it when they went through school, and they're in their 20s now. And I think that that's a shame because I know that for one of my children, handwriting is fine, she is really captivated with it. For my other child - he hates it. If he has to do it by hand it's a right pain, much prefer to do it using a computer. And I think that if we deny our kids the opportunities to express themselves, to find their voice, and to express it in the way that is best suited to them, then we are actually doing them a huge injustice.  

Date added: 08/13/2012

ICT helping reluctant writers find a voice

Jo Fothergill, a 2011 CORE Education eFellow, researched how ICT could help her students find their voice and explored what 'writing' actually is. She challenges us to consider 'If you always do what you've always done,you'll always get what you've always got."

Views 10,221 Date added: 28/09/2012

ICT helping reluctant writers find a voice

Hi my name's Jo Fothergill, I'm a teacher of year five students at Raumati Beach School on the Kapiti Coast. 

I decided to apply for an eFellowship this year because I had an interest in literacy and reluctant writers and how ICTs might help them find their voice. I see it as being something that is a start. It is a project that I have started that I will continue working on. I don't believe that I've found a definitive answer, it is something I am still looking at.

I hate writing by hand. It is just something that totally puts me off. And if I have a choice I won't write by hand and I've discovered for me that the joy of writing comes in being able to reflect about my writing. And it is a process that is a lot deeper and has a lot more meaning because I can do it in a form, in a medium that doesn't restrict me. And I have discovered that for a lot of my students the same thing applies.

They may be competent writers but the real joy and the real expression of creativity comes when they have a freedom, when they can write from home, when they can write when they're on holiday and they've got an idea, the next idea for their story. They go online, they go into their Google Docs and away they go.

One of the things that I looked at is what is writing anyway? Is writing always pen and paper? Is writing always words? Perhaps writing is painting a picture or creating a dance. So writing is not always what we've traditionally thought of writing as being. And I think the challenge for teachers is to see that not all children see the same way, and not all children can write the same way.

James Nottingham talks about intraverted and extraverted thinkers, people who talk to think and people who think to talk. And I think this really applies when it comes down to writing, whether it is traditional writing. Some children can sit down and they can write. Other children have to go away, have a bit of a play, and come back and do their writing. And some of the work that one of our new entrant teachers has been doing has proved that by giving kids that opportunity to do another activity before they write, they come to writing prepared. They've got their ideas, they're ready to go.

The other thing that really strikes me is the quote, "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got". And I think about writing and I look at how some teachers are doing writing and it is no different to how my kids did it when they went through school, and they're in their 20s now. And I think that that's a shame because I know that for one of my children, handwriting is fine, she is really captivated with it. For my other child - he hates it. If he has to do it by hand it's a right pain, much prefer to do it using a computer. And I think that if we deny our kids the opportunities to express themselves, to find their voice, and to express it in the way that is best suited to them, then we are actually doing them a huge injustice.  

Hi my name's Jo Fothergill, I'm a teacher of year five students at Raumati Beach School on the Kapiti Coast. 

I decided to apply for an eFellowship this year because I had an interest in literacy and reluctant writers and how ICTs might help them find their voice. I see it as being something that is a start. It is a project that I have started that I will continue working on. I don't believe that I've found a definitive answer, it is something I am still looking at.

I hate writing by hand. It is just something that totally puts me off. And if I have a choice I won't write by hand and I've discovered for me that the joy of writing comes in being able to reflect about my writing. And it is a process that is a lot deeper and has a lot more meaning because I can do it in a form, in a medium that doesn't restrict me. And I have discovered that for a lot of my students the same thing applies.

They may be competent writers but the real joy and the real expression of creativity comes when they have a freedom, when they can write from home, when they can write when they're on holiday and they've got an idea, the next idea for their story. They go online, they go into their Google Docs and away they go.

One of the things that I looked at is what is writing anyway? Is writing always pen and paper? Is writing always words? Perhaps writing is painting a picture or creating a dance. So writing is not always what we've traditionally thought of writing as being. And I think the challenge for teachers is to see that not all children see the same way, and not all children can write the same way.

James Nottingham talks about intraverted and extraverted thinkers, people who talk to think and people who think to talk. And I think this really applies when it comes down to writing, whether it is traditional writing. Some children can sit down and they can write. Other children have to go away, have a bit of a play, and come back and do their writing. And some of the work that one of our new entrant teachers has been doing has proved that by giving kids that opportunity to do another activity before they write, they come to writing prepared. They've got their ideas, they're ready to go.

The other thing that really strikes me is the quote, "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got". And I think about writing and I look at how some teachers are doing writing and it is no different to how my kids did it when they went through school, and they're in their 20s now. And I think that that's a shame because I know that for one of my children, handwriting is fine, she is really captivated with it. For my other child - he hates it. If he has to do it by hand it's a right pain, much prefer to do it using a computer. And I think that if we deny our kids the opportunities to express themselves, to find their voice, and to express it in the way that is best suited to them, then we are actually doing them a huge injustice.  

Date added: 28/09/2012

ICT helping reluctant writers find a voice

Jo Fothergill, a 2011 CORE Education eFellow, researched how ICT could help her students find their voice and explored what 'writing' actually is. She challenges us to consider 'If you always do what you've always done,you'll always get what you've always got."

Views 10,221 Date added: 28/09/2012

ICT helping reluctant writers find a voice

Hi my name's Jo Fothergill, I'm a teacher of year five students at Raumati Beach School on the Kapiti Coast. 

I decided to apply for an eFellowship this year because I had an interest in literacy and reluctant writers and how ICTs might help them find their voice. I see it as being something that is a start. It is a project that I have started that I will continue working on. I don't believe that I've found a definitive answer, it is something I am still looking at.

I hate writing by hand. It is just something that totally puts me off. And if I have a choice I won't write by hand and I've discovered for me that the joy of writing comes in being able to reflect about my writing. And it is a process that is a lot deeper and has a lot more meaning because I can do it in a form, in a medium that doesn't restrict me. And I have discovered that for a lot of my students the same thing applies.

They may be competent writers but the real joy and the real expression of creativity comes when they have a freedom, when they can write from home, when they can write when they're on holiday and they've got an idea, the next idea for their story. They go online, they go into their Google Docs and away they go.

One of the things that I looked at is what is writing anyway? Is writing always pen and paper? Is writing always words? Perhaps writing is painting a picture or creating a dance. So writing is not always what we've traditionally thought of writing as being. And I think the challenge for teachers is to see that not all children see the same way, and not all children can write the same way.

James Nottingham talks about intraverted and extraverted thinkers, people who talk to think and people who think to talk. And I think this really applies when it comes down to writing, whether it is traditional writing. Some children can sit down and they can write. Other children have to go away, have a bit of a play, and come back and do their writing. And some of the work that one of our new entrant teachers has been doing has proved that by giving kids that opportunity to do another activity before they write, they come to writing prepared. They've got their ideas, they're ready to go.

The other thing that really strikes me is the quote, "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got". And I think about writing and I look at how some teachers are doing writing and it is no different to how my kids did it when they went through school, and they're in their 20s now. And I think that that's a shame because I know that for one of my children, handwriting is fine, she is really captivated with it. For my other child - he hates it. If he has to do it by hand it's a right pain, much prefer to do it using a computer. And I think that if we deny our kids the opportunities to express themselves, to find their voice, and to express it in the way that is best suited to them, then we are actually doing them a huge injustice.  

Hi my name's Jo Fothergill, I'm a teacher of year five students at Raumati Beach School on the Kapiti Coast. 

I decided to apply for an eFellowship this year because I had an interest in literacy and reluctant writers and how ICTs might help them find their voice. I see it as being something that is a start. It is a project that I have started that I will continue working on. I don't believe that I've found a definitive answer, it is something I am still looking at.

I hate writing by hand. It is just something that totally puts me off. And if I have a choice I won't write by hand and I've discovered for me that the joy of writing comes in being able to reflect about my writing. And it is a process that is a lot deeper and has a lot more meaning because I can do it in a form, in a medium that doesn't restrict me. And I have discovered that for a lot of my students the same thing applies.

They may be competent writers but the real joy and the real expression of creativity comes when they have a freedom, when they can write from home, when they can write when they're on holiday and they've got an idea, the next idea for their story. They go online, they go into their Google Docs and away they go.

One of the things that I looked at is what is writing anyway? Is writing always pen and paper? Is writing always words? Perhaps writing is painting a picture or creating a dance. So writing is not always what we've traditionally thought of writing as being. And I think the challenge for teachers is to see that not all children see the same way, and not all children can write the same way.

James Nottingham talks about intraverted and extraverted thinkers, people who talk to think and people who think to talk. And I think this really applies when it comes down to writing, whether it is traditional writing. Some children can sit down and they can write. Other children have to go away, have a bit of a play, and come back and do their writing. And some of the work that one of our new entrant teachers has been doing has proved that by giving kids that opportunity to do another activity before they write, they come to writing prepared. They've got their ideas, they're ready to go.

The other thing that really strikes me is the quote, "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got". And I think about writing and I look at how some teachers are doing writing and it is no different to how my kids did it when they went through school, and they're in their 20s now. And I think that that's a shame because I know that for one of my children, handwriting is fine, she is really captivated with it. For my other child - he hates it. If he has to do it by hand it's a right pain, much prefer to do it using a computer. And I think that if we deny our kids the opportunities to express themselves, to find their voice, and to express it in the way that is best suited to them, then we are actually doing them a huge injustice.  

Date added: 28/09/2012

The CORE Education eFellowship Awards recognise innovative e-learning practice by New Zealand teachers.

View more stories from CORE Education eFellows in the eFellows EDtalks channel 

Reluctant writers
Posted by: Jill Hammonds on the 04/10/2012
Hi Jo,Great to find someone else who thinks this way about student writing. So often teachers talk about these reluctant writers in a way that puts the cause on the writers, rather than reflecting that perhaps it is the teaching environment that is the causal factor. As you say, writing is about communicating and therefore in order for the process to complete there has to be audience and response, and in too many instances student writing does not occur in a space where response can occur and hence it becomes a meaningless task that just fills in time at school.Likewise the dynamic of handwriting is not an even playing field, and some will feel they have failed even before they commit their scrawl to paper. I had one child who was like that, and the first opportunity he had to show me what he could do in the way of writing was when he emailed me from London - he had exciting things to write about and a tool that he felt comfortable using, and hence the expression flowed and was enjoyable.The title of your ED Talk indicates one great solution to both these factors - using ICT enables a level playing field re presentation, and an easy way to create genuine audince and opportunity for response. As teachers we need to get these reluctant writers freed from their supposed "handicaps" and enabled to express themselves in meaningful ways which may include other media than just text. I have started a VLN (virtual learning network) community around just these ways of working - the Blended e-Learning Literacy Community at http://www.vln.school.nz/groups/profile/704046/blended-e-learning-literacy which viewers may find useful if they want to take your ideas further.I'm moving to Paraparaumu Beach shortly so will look forward to making F2F contact once I'm there, but so pleased to see these ideas getting out there.Cheers, Jill
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